I got it 9 times, and I'm about to get my 10th time. After about the 7th or 8th time, I definitely felt less pain. I don't even remember when I pushed, but now that I look at it, it's not there!! Since it is a factory type, it is cheap and you can get it without much thought. Please note that the machine is waiting even if you make a reservation at Apogee Plus on weekends!