I did the 1st stage of toad neck thread lifting and it was a lot more swollen and painful than expected. I thought it was simple, but it wasn't simple at all. The facial expression on the chin for the first two months? It's a little awkward to make facial expressions and it's awkward to smile. It's swollen. After about 6 months, it looks like the swelling has completely gone down. The scar is a bit big. They do laser scar injections , but the scar under the chin is so big. Still, the results seem to be getting better.