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I'm a foreigner. Should I get after-sales service for a failed reoperation? Help me (long text)

하리보님 2024-03-28 (목) 09:22 7 Months ago 15622 [CODE : 2D637]
It's getting a bit long, but it's a really, really difficult situation, so I hope many people read it and help me.
 I'm a foreigner living abroad, but I had eye and nose revision surgery in Korea a year ago. This is my third time.
 It's a hospital that does overseas marketing and has interpreters and foreign employees.
 Director This person is quite famous, and everyone who did it there did well, so I decided to get it there,
 but it ended up being a disaster. I did a lot of different things, but other than the nose getting a little higher and the bridge of the nose getting a little smaller, there was no change at all, and it was very different from the picture I showed, and the eyes were very asymmetrical, and
 that was just the same. It's not that I failed, but it's a bit complicated. First of all, the manager who was in charge when I had the surgery spoke my native language. I can have basic conversations, but I don't know a lot of technical terms, so he also acted as the manager and interpreter, but he left the company a few months after I had the surgery. (He said he was fired because he was too bad at his job.)
 For your information, there is another interpreter now and we are in contact through him.
 I checked whether A/S was available before I had the surgery, so last time I was in Korea, I visited the hospital and showed it to him, and he said he would do it again. The problem is that even one machine won't look like the picture I showed you before the surgery.
 I knew that my skin was thick and that it would be difficult to get an image close to the image I wanted, so I checked a lot before the surgery. On the
 day of the consultation, I didn't have time to talk to the director. There weren't many, but at that time, the director said, "Yes, it's possible (surgery is possible just like the image you want)." So I was wondering if it was really possible, so I went home and checked again through KakaoTalk.
 Since I could only show the director one photo, he said he might not have figured it out accurately, so I took another photo. I pulled out a few of them and asked if it was really possible like this
 , and the director in charge checked with the director and said that the surgery was possible just like the newly sent photos.
 Recently, when the hospital said that they couldn't do the same thing, he showed me a screenshot and said it was possible at that time, but that was the director in charge. I don't know if I checked with the director properly. It's like this... That means he may have sent a reply without checking... Does this make sense??
 It's so absurd to say things like, "We're not bad," without any evidence. Even if that's true, I just checked again just in case. When we met in person, I heard the director say it was possible. (I can't prove that because I don't have a recording.)
 And it's not the hospital's fault that the employee left the company??
 You directly told the director that it was possible at that time, but he didn't say anything about it and just said it was because his skin was naturally thick (the director didn't seem to admit the mistake, but he said he would provide after-sales service, which was surprising).
 And not only that he couldn't do it exactly like the image I wanted, but there was no way to do it. I can't say for sure what the shape will be or how much improvement can be made. Isn't that just a matter of luck?
 I didn't trust the hospital, so I thought it would be a bit difficult to get a second surgery here, so I was thinking about it for a while, but this time, they said that a partial refund is possible, but they said that if I want to get a refund, I need to go to the hospital again and discuss it with the legal team and then decide on the amount.
 I'm at a huge disadvantage. It's obvious and I was thinking that it would be better than doing nothing since they would only give me a partial refund, but it would be better than doing nothing, so I was planning on getting a second surgery until then...
 But the former manager was slow to contact me, didn't answer my questions properly, and it's true that I couldn't do my job, so all of a sudden. I felt bad and checked again the details of the surgery I had,
 and found out that there was no cartilage realignment in the options that had been set before the surgery.
 There was a screenshot of that too, so I sent it to the doctor, but he said he didn't know what I was talking about. So I got angry and said that it would be difficult and that he wouldn't be able to see it, and the hospital said. I don't know what the cartilage rearrangement that the person in charge explained means because it's not an official name. Even though
 cartilage rearrangement is not a famous method, it's just a name used by other hospitals, but it's
 too difficult to understand, so I said I couldn't do it anymore, so I'm trying to contact them for now.
 
Even if I talk about it like this, it doesn't seem to have any meaning because it's all about blaming people who aren't there and we don't know, so I tried to borrow the power of a third party and contacted a counseling and medical institution guidance agency for foreign patients, etc., but they(?) directly intervened. They said they couldn't help me
 because I couldn't do it. Since it was a foreigner who had the surgery in Korea, it seems difficult to find a third-party organization in Korea that would help
 . I asked them to contact the Medical Dispute Resolution and Arbitration Service, and I tried contacting them, but they said they could only do it by phone, so I gave up. (Phone calls are too expensive. (I can't explain everything over the phone)
 I looked into everything, but in the end, I don't think there's anything a foreigner can do while in a foreign country. I'm thinking of contacting the Consumer Agency when I go to Korea next time (they say they have a foreign language counseling center), so they can help solve this problem. Is this okay..
 Or is it better to just get after-
 sales service even if I contact the Consumer Agency? If it doesn't work out after contacting the Consumer Agency, then I'm the only one who is stressed and having a hard time again, so I think it would be better to just contact the hospital and make an appointment as if nothing happened.
 Even if the Consumer Agency helps, I won't get a full refund. I know it's going to be difficult, so I don't want that.
There is no sincerity at all, but I don't think the director is a person who can't perform surgery. I would just apologize sincerely and tell him why the result was like this, what to do during the reoperation and how to improve, and I will trust him once more and get the surgery... Now they say they will give me the surgery for free, so what are you so curious about? I feel like they should shut up and just get it again. I don't like it and I'm angry..
 Won't the Consumer Agency contact the hospital to tell us in detail or something like that ?
 If you don't trust me, go to another hospital and get it ^^ (They don't provide refunds or after-sales service) I'm really worried about this happening. I'm
 planning to go to Korea soon and if I'm going to have surgery, I want to get it as soon as possible, so it's better to make a decision quickly, but I really don't know what the best way to do is,
 
please advise. , please

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모모56 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 1A906] Address
외국인이라 해서 놀랐어! 힌국말 잘하네! 나같으면 환불받고 재수술 병원 알아볼거 같애..같은 자리에서 어래한 개인병원 이 잘하구 여기서 초성으로 검색해봐봐
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
[@모모56] 고마워!ㅜㅜ 아무래도 그게 제일 좋긴하지.. 개인병원!! 검색해봐야겠다 조언 고마워
cdw**** 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 25F1B] Address
일단 부분환불이라도 해준다는게 놀랍긴하네
보통은 절대 안해주거든 그 돈 받고 시간 좀 지난뒤에 다른곳에서 수술 받는걸 추천해!!
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
[@cdw****] 그치 보통은 절대절대 안해주지
해외에서 오는걸 고려해서 그런거 아닐까 싶어
조언 고마워ㅜㅜ
초딩입맛 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 1CBAE] Address
일본 눈성형한거 예전에 봤는데 한국보다
훨씬 잘하던데 무에서 유를 창조하는 느낌...ㅋ
일본어만 잘했다면 거기갔을거같다ㅠ
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
[@초딩입맛] 으음 일본은 매몰 잘하는 원장은 많긴한데 아무래도 매몰이다보니까 원래 눈이 어느정도 예뻐야 대성공하는 그런 느낌임.. 피부 두꺼운데 잘된 사람은 거의 못봤어ㅜ 그리고 절개 잘하는 원장은 많이 없는거같아 내 생각엔
잘하는 병원도 당연히 있지만 겁나게 진짜 말도 안되게 비싸서 한국사람은 그냥 한국에서 하는게 나을거야..ㅋㅋ
닉네임정하기귀찮아 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 7DDF0] Address
일단 한국어 너무 잘해서 존경스럽다...
私も他の方と一緒
半額でもいいからそれもらって、他のところで再手術受ける!だって、ここで成功したとしても、元々信頼してた病院じゃないから、いつか副作用が出るんじゃないかなってモヤッとするかも..

あと、整形外科だけじゃなくて、病院っていうのは大体患者を大切に思わないんだよねー悲しいけど

他になんか手伝うことあるかな?手伝って欲しいことがあれば言ってね!通訳はもう私より韓国語上手いから必要なさそうだけど
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
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강그리 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 24D1C] Address
처음 코 했는데 그것도 너무 힘들었는데 대단하세요..
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
[@강그리] 코수술 진짜 힘들긴하죠.. 감사합니다(?)
KC 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 12EF6] Address
슬프겠네.. 잘 됐음 좋겠다 글고 한국어 잘한다 외국인이라고 말 안 하면 모르겠네
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
[@] 고마워ㅜㅜㅜ 칭찬까지ㅜㅜㅜ 천사다
더더욱이뻐지고싶다 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 821DD] Address
너무힘들겠다 힘내ㅜㅜ
     
     
하리보님 Writer 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 2D637] Address
[@더더욱이뻐지고싶다] 고마워ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ 더더욱이뻐질수있을거야!!
오징어환전소 7 Months ago 7 Months ago [CODE : 1DDF2] Address
다른 건 모르겠고 일단 망한데라면 거기서 다시 안 받는 게 맞는 듯… 망한 데서 다시 해준다 해서 또 망한 사람을 너무 많이 봐서… 그냥 다른데 가는 게 어때?
그리고 의료분쟁조정중재원에서 결국 해주는 게 환불 다 받는 대신 다시는 말 안 꺼낸다는 조건이던데… 환불은 어떻게든 받아내면 좋겠네
그리고 한국말 진짜 잘한다 나도 외국어 이렇게 잘하고 싶어 ㅋㅋ
     
     
하리보님 Writer 6 Months ago 6 Months ago Address
[@오징어환전소] 많이 늦어져서 미안해ㅠㅠㅠ 댓글 남겨줘서 너무너무 고마워!! 다른데 가는게 좋겠지 아무래도ㅜㅜ 돈때매 고민 진짜 많이 했는데 나 역시 환불받고 다른데서 재수할려구..
한국어까지 칭찬해줘서 기분죠타ㅏ 예사도 잘할수있을거야 흐흐
Saanvi 6 Months ago 6 Months ago Address
나도 정말 큰 수술 부작용으로 여러번 재수술 했는데.. 같은 병원에서 재수술 하는건 보통은 큰 의미가 없어. 의사나 직원이 수술 경과에 대해 말을 할 때 그래도 잘못된 부분을 먼저 인식하고 알아서 실토하고 재수술을 먼저 제의한다면 AS 고려해 볼 수 있읆거 같아..그런데 알다시피 대부분은 그렇지 않잖아? 무조건 환자 탓으로 돌리거나 원래 이랬다는 식으로 말하거나, 하물며 타고난 얼굴이 어딘가 잘못됐었다는 식으로도 말해. 그냥 환불도 보통은 안해주는데 법적인 부분까지 끼게 되면 더 피곤하고 정말 너무 힘들어져. 소비자고발을 해도 그건 또 법적 분쟁으로 이어질 가능성 때문에 결국 환자한테 무조건 피해지. 정말 병원을 협박할 수 있는건 병원 자체에서 혹시 운영하는 카페나 후기 등 적을 수 있는 공간이 있으면 거기에 솔직히 올려보는 것도 좋을거 같아. 돈을 위해서라면 할수 있는거 다 해보는데, 혹시 그 돈 그냥 줘버리고 인연 끊어도 될만큼 여유가 좀 있다면 포기하는 것도 정신건강을 위해선 괜찮을꺼야. 실제로 많이들 그냥 포기하기도 하고.. 그리고 얼굴을 위해서라면 다른 병원들을 알아보고 재수술이 나을꺼 같아.. 너무 힘들고 피곤하겠다. 성형수술 쉽게들 하니 쉽게 봤다가 나도 너무 오래 고생했고.. 정말 힘내길 바래. 내가 다 미안한 느낌이야 정말..
     
     
하리보님 Writer 6 Months ago 6 Months ago Address
[@Saanvi] ㅠㅠㅠㅠ일단 길게 써줘서 너무 고마워 예사도 고생 많았구나.. 다 맞는 말인거 같아 성의가 하나도 안보여서 거기서 다시 해봤자 똑같은 결과일거 같긴 하더라고
법적분쟁까지 가면 엄청 힘들겠지.. 나도 이제 포기하고싶긴한데 대충 얼마 주는지도 안알려주는데 한국까지 얘기하러 오라는건  내 입장에서는 역시 이해가 안되고 무엇보다 병원의 태도가 맘에 안들어서 나 할수있는건 일단 다 해볼라고.. 아무의미도 없을수도 있겠지만ㅜ
얘기 들어주고 좋은 조언까지 해줬는데 얘사가 뭘미안해해 거기서 수술받기로 결정한건 난데 같은 한국인이라고 미안해할 필요없어 조언 진짜 고마워 도움이 많이 됐어
          
          
Saanvi 6 Months ago 6 Months ago Address
[@하리보님] 진짜 웃기네.. 얘기 하게 한국으러 오라는거.. 하여튼 책임지는 의사들은 없고 다들 그런거 같애. 정말 성형 어렵다..힘내~
용용이라우 5 Months ago 5 Months ago Address
내생각에는 일단 법적으로 싸워서 이기는건 별로 가능성이 없을거같고.. 그냥 여기서는 돈만 받고 다른병원에서 재수술하는데 보태는게 나을거같아. 그 병원에서 재수술하는건 비추야!! 혹시 한국 와서 도움 필요하면 도와줄게
     
     
하리보님 Writer 5 Months ago 5 Months ago Address
[@용용이라우] 오래된 글인데 댓글 달아줘서 고맙고 늦어져서 미안해ㅠ 내가 이길 수 있는 확률은 낮겠지..  그래도 일단 할수있는건 다 해볼라구ㅜㅜ 그리고 거기서 재수는 안하기로 했어!! 진짜고마워ㅜ
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나는 1년6개월전 병원은 밝히지 않을게 첫코로 코끝귀연골 콧대2미리정도 실리콘 이랑 매무리깎는수술을 했어 원래코도 나름 괜찮아서 발품팔지않아도 잘될줄알았어 코수술하고 첫날부터 콧볼이 똥똥해졌길래 붓기가 심한줄알았어 다들 6개월은 기다려야한다길래 기다렸는데 1년하고도 6개월이 더 지난 지금은 코가 더 길고 콧볼이 점점자라서 심한 컴플렉스가 되었어 심지어 코끝에 이제 보형물까지보여.. 나 어떡해.. 재수술한다면 보형물안쓰고 싶은데 매부리 까까…
12 Minutes ago
Eyelid job Cmt 0 View 17 Like 0
<After><Before>After coming into Sungye Temple and reading another post, I got curious . It seems like the line stabilizer? fixer? is different depending on the surgical method. I had surgery with natural adhesion and also had an anterior incision durin…
13 Minutes ago
Nose job - 유니메디성형외과의원 Cmt 0 View 27 Like 0
콧볼축소 3개월차 후기입니다 다른병원에서 코수술이 만족스럽게 되지않아서 콧구멍 비대칭에 정말 못난 코였어요. 여러군데 알아보고, 사실 콧볼축소는 생각도 못했는데 유니메디에서 실장님께 상담받아보고 넘 맘에 들어서 수술 결정했습니다ㅎ 콧구멍이 문제라고 생각해서 콧구멍을 손봐야된다 생각했는데, 콧볼축소가 답이더라구요! 콧구멍 잘못건드리면 얼굴전체가 망가지는거 아시죠? 워낙 망했던 코라서 수술후 초반까지도 수술이 잘된거라고 생각못했는데, 1개월 …
21 Minutes ago
Facialbone job - 디에이성형외과의원 Cmt 0 View 47 Like 0
윤곽이랑 눈재수술한지 2달이 지났어요! 최근 상태를 말하자면 입 벌리는 운동을 연습하고 있지만 아직까진 손가락 두개 들어갈 정도로만 벌려지고 있어서 시간이 조금 더 지나야 완벽히 벌어질거같아요 그래도 저반달 보다 잇몸의 조임 증상과 턱 조임이 없어져서 크게 불편하다는 생각은 안드네용 ㅎㅎ 하루하루 나아지는걸 몸소 느끼다 보니 걱정은 없구 아직은 잔붓기가 있지만 눈으로 봤을 때 얼굴형이 갸름해지면서 윤곽이 잡혀가는게 보여서 너무 만족하고 있어요!…
40 Minutes ago
Petit/Laser job Cmt 0 View 10 Like 0
하관이 살을빼도 라인이 안예뻐서 상담받고 턱보톡스랑 침샘보톡스 같이받았는데 효과 넘 좋아 잃어버린 턱라인을 찾았어!ㅎㅎ 특히 옆에서봤을때 얼굴넙데데해보이는게 없어져서 넘맘에들어 앞으로 유지기간끝나면 계속 받아야지~
44 Minutes ago
Eyelid job Cmt 3 View 122 Like 0
I really swell easily, don't I? bbb I 'm the type of person who really swells up easily when I'm tired or eat something wrong.. But the problem here is!! My double eyelids always come undone whenever I swell;;;; It's really the kind of severness that o…
1 Hours ago
Nose job - 브이엔성형외과의원 Cmt 0 View 52 Like 0
복코 느낌이랑 코끝 떨어짐땜에 알아보던 도중 브이엔성형외과 후기를 보게됨 발품은 거의 세네군데 정도 돌아봤던 것 같고 그 중 제일 원장님 미감이 나랑 잘맞는것 같단 생각이 든게 여기였는데, 가상성형 해준다길래 별거 아닌거 같았는데 내얼굴에서 코끝이랑 콧대 이렇게 이렇게 고치니깐 딱 내가 바라던 라인이 돼서 신기했음. 콧대도 욕심나서 한번 높여봐달라그랬는데, 가상성형하다보니 콧대는 낮추는게 확실히 내얼굴에 맞는거란걸 알게됨 .. 나는 이번에 코재…
1 Hours ago